The Dog’s Way Podcast, with professional dog trainer Sean McDaniel, deals with practical dog obedience for real life situations. Sean gives you underlying theory and practical training assignments based in a more naturalistic dog training philosophy to help you solve the most common dog behavior issues. Sean shares his experience from over fifteen years of working with clients and their dogs, dealing with behavior modification, functional dog obedience issues and everyday dog training issues. In the “dog training podcasts”, Sean leaves you with homework assignments to help you begin practically dealing with your dog’s issues. Sean also, interviews leading dog issue experts in topics such as: your dog’s diet, veterinary medicine, puppy raising, dog breeding and selecting the right dog for you.
Session 111: Interview with Kellee Zenk of Dogs Decoded
Today I speak with Kellee Zenk, who has a very interesting origins that led her to dog training. She’s the founder of Dogs Decoded, based in Minnesota.
Kellee has a background in training bears and elephants! We discuss how she got started in that area and how it led to where she is today.
Kellee got her start at private zoos in Minnesota and loved training bears and really enjoyed marker and clicker training. She talks about some early mistakes and talks about the full range of experiences.
Kellee and I contrast the dynamic of dog trainers and how you develop better communication with the dog owners as you gain more experience. We also talk about our approach to “play” with dogs, and how to help owners create certain distinctions regarding when play time is on and off, and how to establish that relationship over time as the relationship is clarified.
I ask Kellee about her method or philosophy and how it has evolved. Kellee talks about how she is not a “purely positive” trainer. She is very versed in Skinner’s theory, which we’ve detailed in podcast episodes 73 (part 1) and 74 (part 2).
We talk about bridging signals as part of verbal markers and get deeper into Skinner’s four quadrants.